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Archive-name: nude-faq/part1 Version: 3.0 Last-modified: 1994/10/31 Changes this month: none Additions marked by + in column 1. Modifications marked by | in column 1. Copies of this article may be obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under /pub/usenet/news.answers/nude-faq/part1.Z. Frequently Asked Questions on REC.NUDE, part I of III 1. What is REC.NUDE? 2. What does CO, thong, etc. mean? 3. Why nude recreation? 3a. But isn't it illegal? 3b. Isn't nudity sinful? 4. Won't I offend someone? 5. What is the difference between a naturist and a nudist? 6a. What if I (a male) get an erection? 6b. What if I (a female) am menstruating? 7. But doesn't nudity equate with sexuality? 8. Does one go naked all the time? 9. What if I meet somebody I know from work? 10. How do you explain to kids when nudity is/isnt acceptable? 11. I just had surgery and have a scar. What will people think? 12. Where can I find a CO beach/resort near me? 13. What should I take with me when I visit a nude beach or resort? 14. I would like to participate in REC.NUDE, but am afraid to post. Is there is an anonymous posting service? ============================================================================== 1. What is REC.NUDE? From the REC.NUDE charter: "REC.NUDE serves as a medium for exchange of views, news, philosophies, and ideologies relating to the nudist and naturist lifestyles. Here you will find discussions of locations to enjoy nature naturally, notifications of legal proceedings affecting nudists/naturists, notices of gatherings and trips, and spirited discourse on issues relating (most times) to nudism." REC.NUDE is NOT a place to pick up someone. Harassing/threatening mail or posts are NOT desired or condoned. See question 7 (and its answer). Flames may be directed to ALT.DEV.NULL. General cross-posting of messages in NOT encouraged, especially not with the various alt.sex newsgroups. Threads get confused and the discussion quickly gets "off track". 2. What does CO, thong, etc. mean? ASA - American Sunbathing Association. Bulletin, The - ASA's publication. Canuding - canoeing in the nude. CCBN - Central Council for British Naturism. CO - Clothing-Optional. ESA - Eastern Sunbathing Association, ASA eastern region FANR - Florida Association for Nude Recreation, ASA Florida Region FCN - Federation of Canadian Naturists. IMO/IMHO - In My (Humble/Honest) Opinion INF - International Federation of Naturists. N - Nude & Natural magazine, published by The Naturist Society. NAC - Naturist Action Committee. Naturist - not to be confused with NATURALIST. see question 5. NIFOC - Nude In Front Of Computer. Ob[xxx] (e.g. ObNude, ObBeer) - Introduces an on-topic statement following an off-topic statement. "Ob" comes from the word "Obligatory". Thong - in this newsgroup refers to G-String style swimwear. TNS - The Naturist Society. Top-free - naturist preferred term for what is commonly referred to as topless (topless has gained undesirable connotations from association with strip bars). WSA - Western Sunbathing Association, ASA western region NOTE: nudists do no live in COLONIES -- that is an antiquated term that should not be used. 3. Why nude recreation? Some would retort, "Why not nude recreation?" A more informative answer would point out that most naturists wear dress only when appropriate. If it's 20 degrees and a blizzard outside, wearing clothes makes quite a bit of sense! Conversely, it makes little sense to go to the beach to "take the sun" and then cover some of the body with itty-bitty little strips of synthetic (or even natural) cloth. The feeling of the sun, wind, and water on your body brings you closer to the surroundings around you. Not having to worry about sand and salt in clothing adds to your recreation (of course, wise use of sunscreens still applies here, as much as on a clothed beach). When you add to this the growing body of knowledge from researchers and sportswear industry leaders that dysfunctional dress - too tight or skimpy swimwear - is damaging to health, it becomes clear that nude recreation is the logical choice in many situations... 3a. But isn't it illegal? ...even with all this evidence, it boggles the mind as to why many laws exist on the books to this day which mandate the use of bathing costumes; even laws which do not apply to nude recreation are being mis-applied to innocent skinny dipping or sunbathing. Although there are no U.S. Federal laws prohibiting nude recreation on Federal lands except at Cape Cod, concurrent jurisdiction became the catch phrase in the early 1980s, allowing state and local laws to be enforced by park rangers, Bureau of Land Management officers, and the like. This insidious encroachment onto Federal turf raises Constitutional questions and allows state and local jurisdictions to limit or eliminate altogether many traditional sites suitable for clothing-optional recreation. Western Europe is generally more tolerant, especially of top-free bathing. Areas in public parks are specifically set aside for the purpose of CO recreation. In light of all this, you've got to believe that naturism has much to offer if its participants brave legal and physical barriers to partake. Try it, you'll like it! 3b. Isn't nudity sinful? Plenty of naturists find no contradiction with their religious beliefs, Christian or otherwise -- in the US, The Naturist Society has a Special Interest Group called "All-Together Christians". The perceived danger is that it leads the weak to sexual temptation. Naturists just want Puritanical evangelists to not make judgements that affect their lifestyle. 4. Won't I offend someone? "Offense"...the age old question (intent v. action). Offense is in the mind of the beholder, true. But, legal questions turn on intent; actions by themselves do not imply that any offense will auto- matically follow. If a man intentionally exposes himself to the proverbial little old lady, there is clear intent to do harm; the man knew that he would elicit a negative response from the little old lady and intended to do so by his actions. However, if a group of people are skinny dipping and have demonstrated a concern for others by either trekking to a remote area or using a tradi- tional or designated (managed) area, then there is clearly no intent to do harm. This is why naturists continue to press for management rather than banishment; naturists would get the same treatment as other taxpayers and complainers need no longer complain. 5. What is the difference between a naturist and a nudist? Some people will tell you nothing. Some people will spell out the dif- ference in great detail. There is little difference in the two terms as espoused by the American Sunbathing Association and The Naturist Society, the US's two largest CO organizations. Americans have been arguing the point since at least the 1930s, while Europeans seem to have little problem using the terms interchangeably. Most "naturists" feel a closeness with the outdoors and are sometimes termed "beach people". Most "nudists" tend to participate in social nudity via resorts, camps, and other similar settings, and they tend to practice social nudity for its own sake. "Naturists" tend to be more active in their pursuit making sure that clothing-optional recreation is always available. NOTE: Some naturists/nudists do not participate in social nudity, and some do not have or desire to have any "political" associations with organized naturist/nudist groups. Some people who espouse naturist/nudist philosophy don't like the labels. NOTE: Not everyone who goes to a "nude beach" or "nudist resort" espouses nudist/naturist philosophy or ideals -- just as sitting in a hen house doesn't necessarily make you a chicken, sitting on a nude beach does not make one a nudist. | 6a. What if I (a male) get an erection? Most males get erections. Now for the news: these natural occurrences in most cases are periodic and predictable. Erections occur periodically during sleep and as the result of internal stimuli (slam a cup of coffee and wait...). They also occur naturally as the result of external stimuli meeting particular notions of sexuality. Since each male has different criteria for being aroused, it is difficult to assert that this erection was caused by that stimulus. This problem occurs far less frequently you might think. Nude recreation is just not that much of a sexual situation for most participants. As in any social setting, the Golden Rule applies. If you get an erection at a nude beach or other social nude setting, you and the group you are with are the best judges as to whether or not it is appropriate. Naturists generally yield a bit of elbow room to avoid making you feel uncomfortable; you should use your judgement to avoid making them feel uncomfortable. If necessary, take a swim or roll over for a short while. In any case, just use common sense and be considerate. 6b. What if I (a woman) am menstruating? Again, this is a natural occurrence, and it is one of the realities of the body with which women have to deal. If a woman is comfortable with one, a tampon is the simplest method of dealing with that time of month. If an external conveyance is preferred, then she would wear shorts or bikini bottoms. For the most part, a woman should use what she feels is less obtrusive for her personally; others aren't going to notice or object. 7. But doesn't nudity equate with sexuality? This hot potato receives much discussion. Many naturists believe that the connection arises artificially in a society where many people see the opposite sex nude only in sexual situations. Suffice it to say that the practice of naturism and the pursuit of naturist values and philosophy allows one to place sexuality into its natural perspective. 8. Does one go naked all the time? No. That's why the term "clothing-optional" exists. Clothing has its purposes - warmth and protection. Many naturists feel more comfortable wearing some clothing while participating in active sports and there are some activities that require one to wear protective clothing while par- ticipating in them. But many activities - swimming, especially - can be much more comfortable and enjoyable without the confinement of clothing. NOTE: As stated earlier, wise use of sunscreens is advocated, as is the use of hats, and yes, even T-Shirts to shade/cover yourself to keep from getting too much sun. 9. What if I meet somebody I know from work? Remember they are there too, just as naked as you are. Be happy to discover that person shares something in common with you. 10. How do you explain to kids when nudity is/isnt acceptable? It can be very confusing to kids that nudity is acceptable in some places but not others. Some parents worry about what their kids might tell others about you and how those others might react. There are wide ranging opinions on this, and bringing up the subject on the net is likely to result in an interesting, lively discussion. Below is one such opinion which could probably be tailored to meet the needs and circumstances of many families: I have been very careful to raise my kids to believe that it is perfectly normal and acceptable to be naked whenever they want. I hope that they will grow up to be instrumental in changing the way people think about nudity. I have tackled the issue of "what other people think and feel" this way. I tell my kids that "some people do not like to be naked, and it makes them very uncomfortable to see other people naked. It is their right to feel that way and you should try not to make them feel uncomfortable. That would be rude. If you are at a friends house and you would be more comfortable being naked, ask their mom or dad if it would be okay. If they ask you why you want to be naked, tell them that you are more comfortable that way and that you are always naked at home. If they say no then you must respect their wishes. If you ever feel uncomfortable or afraid when you are naked then you should put your clothes on and ask to leave. If you have friends over to our house and you want to be naked, go ahead. If your friends do not want to stay or do not want to come back after you are nude, you will have to decide if you want to be naked or not. I will be happy to help you explain your point of view to your friends." I never want my kids to think that nudity is wrong in any way. For their protection they have known the proper names for all body parts male and female) since they learned to speak. They have been told that if someone touches them and it makes them uncomfortable in any way) that they should go straight to mom or dad and tell us. But I have always told them that it is okay to be naked. As they get older they will have to deal with societys pressures. Until then I intend to show them how it could be. It is very complicated trying to empower the kids to make their own decisions without bowing to societys pressures. And we have to protect our children from those who are not mentally stable enough to deal with nudity. I dont want my kids to be outcasts. They need to know when to compromise. If they have the confidence and maturity to demonstrate responsible nudity, then maybe they can help others deal with it. Perhaps they can help our society overcome the stigma associated with nudity. --Contributed by Paul Dumais 10. I just had surgery and have a scar. What will people think? Naturists preach body acceptance. Being nude means having nothing to hide. There is no perfect body and naturists come in ALL shapes, sizes, ages, and colors. Some have scars from surgery, some use wheel-chairs, some are overweight, some are too thin, some have tattoos and other body adornments, and some are "handicapped" by being "normal" :-). 11. Where can I find a CO beach/resort near me? This question is always welcome in REC.NUDE. Richard Mathews' Beach FAQs and Part II of this FAQ give some directions and some sources for finding out some of this information, but the readers of REC.NUDE are generally pretty willing to give the latest information, also. Remember, when writing to a naturist/nudist club/resort for information, enclose a self-addressed, stamped envelope for the reply. 12. What should I take with me when I visit a nude beach or resort? Take a wide-brim hat, sunscreen, two towels (one to sit on), sandals, sunglasses, and water to drink. It is also a good idea to have something to read, something to eat and something to play with (like a volleyball or frisbee or your tennis racquet). 13. I would like to participate in REC.NUDE, but am afraid to post. Is there an anonymous posting service? Yes and no. Most REC.NUDE participants feel that a full anonymous posting service is not needed and would cause more problems than it is worth. There is nothing wrong with nude recreation and one should not be afraid to post to REC.NUDE. That being said, there is the fact that some people are close-minded and some people may be hassled for posting here -- some may lose jobs. To allow these people to post messages, the following people have volunteered to accept e-mail and repost the messages to REC.NUDE. All the "couriers" reserve the right to edit and/or reject postings they deem inappropriate. richard@West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews) Bill_Arnett@mindlink.bc.ca (Bill Arnett) sam@wa4phy.async.com (Sam Drinkard) =============================================================================== This information is a compilation of the FAQ that existed before I took over, material gleaned from nudist/naturist publications and of course, mail and postings from REC.NUDE. Permission must be requested before copying or posting Copyright @ 1992-1995 Michael O'Neal-Petterson. Corrections, additions, positive comments/criticisms, updates and requests for current copies should be addressed to: mop@oxy.edu Relax and enjoy, naturally! -- Michael O'Neal-Petterson mop@oxy.edu http://www.oxy.edu/~mop/home.html Archive-name: nude-faq/part2 Version: 4.02 Last-modified: 1994/10/31 Changes this month: none Copies of this article may be obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under /pub/usenet/news.answers/nude-faq/part2.Z. Additions marked by + in column 1. Corrections marked by | in column 1. Frequently Asked Questions on REC.NUDE - Part II of III Curious to know if there's a beach, swimming hole, campground, club, or resort near you where you can enjoy nature naturally? Here's a list to help you get started... I. NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS A. THE U.S.A. The ASA is the premier organization of American nudist resorts and facilitates lobbying and education efforts, while TNS serves as a publishing organization emphasizing fair use of beaches and other public lands. There are hundreds of local clubs, camps, and resorts too numerous to list here. The American Sunbathing Association (ASA) 1703 N. Main St., Suite E Kissimee FL 34744-9988 (800) 879-6833 Membership Information (407) 933-2064 (407) 933-7577 FAX The Naturist Society represents many of the "free beachers" and grew out of that phase of the nudist/naturist movement in America. The Naturist Action Committee, in conjunction with TNS, works with officials to increase public acceptance and opportunities for clothing-optional recreation. The Naturist Society (TNS) and the Naturist Action Committee (NAC) PO Box 132 Oshkosh WI 54902 (414) 426-5009 (414) 231-9977 FAX There is also one other national group, The National Nudist Council. The National Nudist Council of the Americas N.N.C. P.O. Box 860 Keene, New Hampshire 03431 603.585.6800 weekends FAX 603.585.6711 B. CANADA Many Canadian clubs are ASA clubs. However, Canada has two national movements (one English, one French) and is the only country in the world to have two INF (International Naturist Federation) member groups because of this. Federation of Canadian Naturists (FCN) Federation Quebecoise de Naturisme PO Box 186 4545, av. Pierre-de-Coubertin Islington, Ontario C.P. 1000 Succarsale "M" Canada M9A 4X2 Montreal, Quebec Canada H1V 3R2 (514) 252-3014 (or 3000) or contact Glen Martin (gmartin@locutory.ocunix.on.ca). C. OTHER COUNTRIES Central Council for British Naturism (CCBN) Assurance House 35-41 Hazelwood Road Northhampton NN1 1LL UK Telephone (within UK) 0604 20361 (from abroad) +44 604 20361 Australia: The Australian Nudist Federation The Secretary, ANF, P.O. Box 268, Belconnen, ACT 2617 There are many, many countries with national organizations. For information on your country write to the: International Naturist Information Center PO Box 2082 2800 BE Gouda, Netherlands II. PUBLICATIONS A. GUIDEBOOKS The North American Guide to Nude Recreation: A guide to all ASA members camps, resorts and non-landed clubs. $18.95 ($16.95 for ASA members) + $3 shipping from the ASA. Floridans add sales tax. 200 pgs, 8 1/2 x 11, soft cover. World Guide to Nude Beaches & Recreation, by Lee Baxandall: A Naturist Society publication covering the USA and 80 other countries. $21.95 + 3 shipping in US (Outside US, by surface mail, $5 or by air, $10) from TNS. INF World Handbook - 1990 - 1991 Edition - 847 page guide containing information on naturist sites, clubs, and beaches around the world. $18.95 + $3 shipping from the ASA or TNS. NUDISK I,II&III- Computer Disk Listing of Naturist Areas of East/Mid US. Mac 3.5", IBM 3.5" and 5.25". Disk only $15.95. 121 Page Printout, $19.95. Both, only $29.95 Printouts for 1. Florida & Georgia; 2. South Carolina to New York; 3. East Tenn., N.C., S.C, VA, GA, only $7.95 ea. Printout for New England, (81 pp) only $13.95. Post Paid (specify area when ordering). See the review of NUDISK in Nude & Natural 11.3, p.4. Written from a guest's-eye viewpoint, no punches pulled, by permanent nudists, The N & N Nomads. Send $US to: Camilla Van Sickle PO Box 1418U Sarasota, FL 34230 There are several hot springs guides that may be useful, as well as guides for specific areas (California beaches, etc.). Canadian Guide to Naturist Resorts and Beaches Federation of Canadian Naturists (FCN), see above, 1991, CAN $9.95, 51 pages Contents: - Introduction to Naturism and its history in Canada - Listings for clubs, resorts, travel clubs, and 'free' beaches organized by geographic region: Pacific, Prarie, Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic - In total, covers: 27 clubs or resorts; 8 travel clubs; 4 free beaches Some European guides (sorry no prices on some of them -- maybe someone can fill me in and I will post it next go around?): L'Officiel du Littoral Nudiste - French beaches only. Tells you where it is official, where it is tolerated, and where they impose fines. Written in French, with maps and access instructions. Editions Symbiose, 23, Rue Tronchet 75008 Paris. Guide 1993 du Tourisme de la Gironde - La Gironde is a region of South West France by the Atlantic Coast. The guide is updated and published annually. Mainstream French, official, local government tourist brochure, with specific entries for naturist holidays. Available FREE OF CHARGE from: Maison du Tourisme de la Gironde, 21, Cours de l'Intendance, F-33000 Bordeaux Tel (33) 56-52-61-40 Fax (33) 56-81-09-99 FKK Reisefuhrer - All over Europe. Beaches and inland. All in German. Contains some very beautiful photography. ISBN 3-87261-061-9. Gloss & Co Verlagsgesellschaft, Postfach 50 03 44, D-2000 Hamburg 50, Germany. Free Sun - All over Europe. In English. Sketch maps and terse descriptions (sometimes hard to follow). ISBN 0-906677-07-6. Also Inland Free Sun, inland sites only, ISBN 0268-0998. Available from CCBN (see above). Naturist Guide, Holiday Centres in France, Spain and Greece - Published by La Vie au Soleil/Vivre Nu Magazine. In English and in French; very good coverage of France, but probably most useful for camping sites rather than holiday centres with only cottages. Price 50 FRF. EDIBUL, BP 21, F-84570 Mormoiron, France. Tel +33--90-61-93-04; Fax +33--90-62-88-33. Bare Facts, A Guide to Australia's Nude and Dress Optional Clubs, Resorts and Beaches. Published by Australian Sun & Health. Good descriptions of most clubs and resorts, with contact details. Beaches well covered, with directions and most descriptions accurate. Price A$10, US$12 (air), US$9 (sea). B. PERIODICALS The Bulletin: Published by the ASA for its members. A monthly (except for January) newspaper. Contains organizational business updates, club news, and other topics of interest to members. Single copy price - $2.75. Subscription available with ASA membership. Nude & Natural (formerly Clothed with the Sun): A quarterly magazine, included in Naturist Society ($30 **) membership. Provides information about the Naturist movement on a national level. May be subscribed to separately for $25. Single copies $8 + $3 shipping/handling per order. ** Memberships OUTSIDE US: $40 surface, or with air delivery, $50. Subscriptions without membership, deduct $5. US funds only. UBFREE: Monthly Nudists Review. For more details, send SASE to: UBFREE, PO Box 38031, Houston, TX 77238 Naturally (formerly called The Event): Quarterly magazine, $18/year. Naturally, PO Box 203-A, Pequannock, NJ 07440. Naturist Life International (NLI). A subscription is $20/year (four issues). Personal articles, religious-bent (not necessarily Christian). N. L. I., Inc. POB 300 Troy, VT 05868 Bare In Mind/Beachhead: Monthly, newspaper format, $23/year 2nd class, $28/year 1st class. Bare In Mind, PO Box 368, Perris, CA 92370. Hot Springs Gazette: A light-hearted travel guide for the hot spring enthusiast. Covers mostly western US. Four quarterly issues, $15 US. Hot Springs Gazette, 12 S. Benton G3, Helena MT 59601. Going Natural: Canada's National Naturist Magazine, A quarterly report on naturist resorts, beaches, travel, events, and all aspects of the naturist lifestyle. Subscription rate - $30.00 Canadian ($25.00 US). See address for FCN above. British Naturism: A quarterly journal of the British naturist movement. Contains information on France, Spain, Holland, and Africa, too. Sample copy, $5. Year, $12 by sea mail, $20 air mail. CCBN, Assurance House, 35-41 Hazelwood Rd., Northampton, NN1-1L1, England. Australian Sun & Health: A glossy color magazine published quarterly with lots of photos & information about the nude and dress optional clubs, beaches & resorts in Australia and overseas. Australian Sun & Health, P.O. Box 5601, Mail Centre, GOLD COAST 4217, Australia. 1993 Subscription Rates Sea Mail Econ Air Mail USA US $24 US $32 Canada Can $27 Can $36 United Kingdom UK #14 UK #18 New Zealand NZ $34 NZ $38 Personal Cheques accepted from the above countries. Note Sea Mail can take up to 13 weeks for delivery. C. VIDEOS Some info on some naturist videos (taken straight from an ad in Nude & Natural): Going Skinny Dipping The seventh documentary travels to the beautiful island of Bonaire in the Netherlands Antilles. An update on Cap D'Agde. The Western Naturist Gathering at Silver Valley and Lupin in CA. Fire walking, the Theatre Group of Frank Moore, Hot Springs, and much more. The first naturist camp in West Berlin. An update to Paradise Lakes, FL. A nude cruise on the Ocean Spirit with nude casino, wedding at sea, games, parties, and fun for all. $49.95 - 60 min. Natural Summer Takes an in-depth look at the many aspects of clothing optional recreation throughout the US. Miami's Palms Hotel, offers a nude rooftop for sunbathing as well as topfree bathing by the pool and their beach, and upon request, nude health spa. Cypress Cove, near Disney World, Orlando, FL, one of the most popular and luxurious nudist resorts in the US. The Ledges in Vermont, unique rock forma- tions and majestic lake. Lake Travis, TX where the city of Austin has accepted nude recreation at Hippy Hollow. Nude Halloween Party, East Coast Gathering, packed with activities including the Nudelywed Game, Gong Show, photography, body painting, massage workshops, nude skydiving, art show and more. $49.95 - 60 min. Companion Video to _Lee Baxandall's World Guide_ - $31.95. NOTE: Above videos in American format only! All prices in US dollars. Shipping & Handling in US, $3; to Canada, $8 US. Anywhere else, $12 US per order. To: The Naturist Store P.O. Box 132, Oshkosh, WI 54902 Other videos can be purchased from ASA, TNS, and others that highlight nude resorts and beaches, as well as introduce the nudist/naturist lifestyle. Several resorts have videos about their facilities (Cypress Cove is one such resort). ASA and TNS both have introductory vides. See above publications for advertisements. ============================================================================== The above information is far from comprehensive (but hopefully correct)! I make no guarantees of quality or usefulness. I do not represent any of the above organizations or companies and receive no monetary reward for posting this information. Permission must be requested before posting and copying. Copyright @ 1992, 1993, 1994 Michael O'Neal-Petterson. Send updates, corrections, comments/criticisms, and requests for current copies to: mop@oxy.edu Relax and enjoy, naturally! -- Michael O'Neal-Petterson mop@oxy.edu http://www.oxy.edu/~mop/home.html Archive-name: nude-faq/part3 Version: 1.5 Last-modified: 1994/10/31 Changes this month: none Copies of this article may be obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under /pub/usenet/news.answers/nude-faq/part3.Z. Additions marked by + in column 1. Corrections marked by | in column 1. Frequently Asked Questions on REC.NUDE - Part III of III D. ELECTRONIC MEDIA Besides USENET's REC.NUDE, there is: CO DIGEST -- John Hendry, owner This list is distributed weekday afternoons between 4:00 and 5:00 pm Central Daylight time, or around midnight GMT. Contributions are welcome. Please e-mail your contributions to: HENDRY@ETSUADMN (Bitnet) HENDRY@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU (Internet) Please try to limit contributions to one per day, and only 40 lines. The editor and owner of the list reserves the right to edit any and all mailings to and from this list. Online Naturist's Club % Michael Corbin P.O. Box 3201 Lynchburg, VA 24503 DELPHI (computer dial): 1-800-365-4636 At the USERNAME prompt, type JOINDELPHI At the PASSWORD prompt, type CUSTOM13 Once online, type GO GROUPS CUSTOM 13 and follow instructions Assistance: Phone (voice) Delphi: 1-800-544-4005 ONC: 1-800-788-9613 Prodigy Naturists Prodigy located the nudist/naturist sections under the HOBBIES Bulletin Board under the topic heading: OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. It is appropriate to prefix the subject line of postings with "NUDE". On Compuserve, at the prompt type GO OUTDOOR. Section 17, Naturists Lifestyles is the section to look for. Page 1065 has several topics of interest to naturist/nudists: Category 2 - California Lifestyles and Attitudes Topic 6 - Beaches and Tanning Category 11 - The Laid Back Enquirer Topic 3 - What do you do nude? Category 16 - Sports, Health & Adventure in California! Topic 5 - To TAN or not to TAN? Topic 6 - Nude beaches, hot springs, & resorts On Genie, the Public Forum, Page 545, in Category 9, Topic 12 is an on-going discussion of nude recreation/lifestyle. The American West Round-Table, Page 1065, CATegory 44, all topics include some discussion of naturism. Covers all the Western States and has a sizable library of files talking about nude beaches, how to get to them, and how to behave. Discussion of nudity laws in Florida in USA-EAST Round-Table on page 1470; has 5 naturist topics in CATegory 8. There are also a few naturist topics on the Travel Round-Table on page 560, in CATegory 28. On America-Online, in the Lifestyles & Interests Department there is "The Exchange" which includes an "Other Special Interests" forum with two folders called "Nudist & Naturist" and "Nudism". Not a lot of activity. National Videotex Network (NVN) has a Nudist area on-line. NVN costs $5.95 per month for basic service, non-prime time hours (6pm-8am weekdays). For information or to sign up call: 1-800-336-9096. Then when on-line type "GO OUTDOORS" to get to "The Great Outdoors" Forum. The forum has a message area and a live chat area for nudists/naturists. Rather active since the influx of Prodigy deserters. D.C. Bare Line - (703) 241-BARE - Telephone Hotline (not a BBS). Club updates, events, and info. Question & Answer section and a Comment Line for free-for-all discussions. The Natural Connection - (414) 426-2110 - The Naturist Society's own BBS. All business with TNS or NAC can be conducted via e-mail here or on the following services: Delphi, Online Naturist Club (id: TNS) Compuserve (id: 76640,633) Genie (id: Naturists) Internet (id: naturist@igc.apc.org) For more info, call Pat O'Brien (voice: (414) 231-9950) Bedroom BBS - Section sponsored by Kansans for a Naturist Society. Popular modem speeds, 24 hours, 3 ports, (816) 637-4183. Western Connection BBS - Arizona Naturists Roundtable. Call and sign up then request access to this roundtable from Sysop or "MusicMan". (602) 881-8283. Mid Ohio Bulletin Board (M.O.B.B). Tom Rothe, Sysop. (419) 756-4958. 300-2400, 24 Hours. Sign up with the sysop for the nudist conference. International Nudists - International BBS at (902) 742-3399 2-lines 24 hrs/day; set software at n-8-1 INACOMP BBS - (218) 879-1979. Duluth, MN. Has nudist/naturist area, but it was just started, so is fairly new. Sysop is GodKing. Leave e-mail telling him who you are. Bare Facts BBS - DOWN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. Camp Midnight! - 614-875-0677 - Ohio. This BBS includes a naturist section that is being set-up along with The Buckeye Naturists. North West Nudist's BBS (206) 782-6740. From the BBS's purpose statement: "This board is to promote nudism/naturism in all of it's varied forms. It is intended for both children and adults, so please keep this in mind when you post here." Howard's Notebook - (816) 331-5868. Sysop is Jim Howard. Has had a nudist area since 1982. From Wayne.Silsbee@f223.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Silsbee): "Hi, Steve. Just an update to your r.n FAQ. About five months ago I started up a Fidonet echo called NATURIST. It's starting rather slowly here ... but we have about 15 participating systems around the US. Anyone interested may contact me on the Fido side 1:105/222 for a v32bis feed, or may contact Greg Martz at 1:3401/1 for a v32bis/HST feed." For more info: e-mail uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!223!Wayne.Silsbee Internet: Wayne.Silsbee@f223.n105.z1.fidonet.org /\/\irage (44) 61 652 1242. Sysop - Ian Battersby, who, along with his father Brian, is active in the Council for British Naturism. The Fidonet node is 2:258/72. Please note that the Naturist Local/International Chat area on Mirage is a 'members only' area, and not visible on 1st call. If you answer the questionnaire correctly and truthfully you will be 'upgraded' when the SysOp does his system check. BODY DHARMA ONLINE - 510-836-4717 - San Francisco Bay Area - Barry Kapke, sysop. A health- and spirituality-oriented BBS, with 200 conferences, including rec.nude, NATURIST, and BAYNUDE (Northern California regional naturist echo), as well as a Body Culture file area that includes text files and hypertext programs dealing with the naturist lifestyle, body art, etc. Online 24 hours. Free access. Fidonet: 1:125/33. Information Gateway BBS. Manny Hernandez, sysop. 404-928-7873. Public Access Usenet Newsgroups/Email. Read access to most groups including rec.nude is free. Posting access is free also after validation. Presently carries about 400 groups. The Antenna Farm BBS -- (512) 444-1052. Sysop: Ben Thornton. Carries rec.nude and the "NATURIST" Fidonet echo. Although it is primarily geared for radio amateurs, these message areas may be made available to users upon request. Supports modem speeds up to 14.4kbps, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop. ?? BBS -- (203) 732-0575. Sysop: Terry Smith. Fido Board which carries Fido Naturist, and has a gated feed of rec.nude. Any more Local BBS's with a nudist/naturist bent? Let me know and I'll add you to the above list. ============================================================================== The above information is far from comprehensive (but hopefully correct)! I make no guarantees of quality or usefulness. I do not represent any of the above organizations or companies. I receive no monetary reward for posting any of this information. Permission must be requested before posting and copying. Copyright @1992,1993,1994 Michael O'Neal-Petterson. Send updates, corrections, comments/criticisms, and requests for current copies to: mop@oxy.edu Relax and enjoy, naturally! -- Michael O'Neal-Petterson mop@oxy.edu http://www.oxy.edu/~mop/home.html